Will Toyota Cancel the RAV4 EV? | Inside EVs

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Will Toyota Cancel the EV?

The Author And His Toyota RAV4 EV At A Rally

Occasionally, the subject up amongst we RAV4 EV owners how much money the RAV4 EV costs Toyota to sell in Toyota must either 2,600 cars through to earn California Air Resources – Zero Emission Vehicle credits, or buy those credits on the market which allows to sell hundreds of thousands of oil burners in California.

Currently, six Large Manufacturers” are selling ZEV in California to meet this

Honda Will Make Fit EVs To Fill A Compliance Need

– Vehicle used for compliance:


Ford – Focus EV

Fiat/Chrysler –

Toyota – RAV4 EV

Nissan –

Honda – Fit EV

In the near future, Hyundai, Kia, Mazda, and Volkswagen will be added to list. Four additional would also be required to with the ZEV requirements, but would be to meet their obligation PHEVs.

It’s no secret that doesn’t like non-hybrid electric cars, and the recent of a Toyota executive in Europe reinforced that further. this year, the trade representing Toyota and other including GM, attempted to stop  mandates yet again, this through the EPA. Thankfully, the existence of a successful Tesla only electric vehicles expensive ones, too) at per week made the trade cries that “nobody EVs” seem a bit insincere.

petition was declined this but ten years ago it was successful. When did relent then and remove the ZEV the original Rav4 EV from was cancelled almost immediately, the much more famous of the GM EV-1. A total of 1,484 sold or leased of the first RAV4 EV.

Out Getting More Than 100 Of Range In The Toyota RAV4 EV

The RAV4 EV’s replacement for compliance has already been and few were surprised that is a battery car at all, but instead a ZEV, scheduled to arrive in late next year. isn’t the only one doing

With that background, the remains; if Toyota can’t get to repeat the events of ten years ago and let just build oil burning and Toyota doesn’t want to ANY pure battery electric wouldn’t it be cheaper to just buy the credits from Tesla Toyota owns a minority of) instead of building the RAV4 EV? has already earned over $60 dollars from selling credits.

Tesla’s Influence Can Be Seen In The Toyota RAV4 EV

has already paid at least million to Tesla for the background on the RAV4 EV. That work “the successful completion of at risk development milestones” and the of prototype samples”, for example. In words, the basic engineering and work.

So, how much does it cost per EV unit today? If we divide the of just the development costs to Tesla (and not Toyota’s development costs, which crash testing, etc) by the 706 EVs delivered since September 24, we get $85,000 per each car delivered so Yes, if Toyota delivered all cars, those fixed to Tesla would drop to per unit.

Here’s my breakdown to

$85k = $60,000,000 / 706 vehicles The $60 million fixed Tesla are for everything except the actual per delivered car

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$15k is my wild of the cost of a basic “glider” EV (engine-less car)

$40k per / battery / hardware from to be installed in the “glider”

That up to:

$140,000 net cost per car delivered to That’s without marketing Toyota’s engineering costs, parts stockpiles, assembly warranty expenses, etc

$40,000 my guess of the typical net price to per sale with all of Toyota’s Discounts offered by Toyota are $7,500 to $15,000 from the total window sticker Therefore, there is:

$100,000 per car if production stopped today. by 706 cars is a total of $70,600,000 If Toyota built all 2600, the fixed costs are lowered by per car so that 2600 multiplied by lost per car equals $98,800,000 program cost.

That’s in additional expenses if the entire are produced that could be to buy those credits instead.

RAV4 EV Interior


The EV has had a number of technical problems, of which are still unresolved. My car has had the motor assembly replaced, the the DC to DC computer and the battery pack was to replace the charge port failed. Over 30 days in the in 9 months of ownership. My car is not isolated in issues.

Ongoing problems remain; for the car fails to charge on the 31st day of month on a timer, as it just did on 31, 2013, even after the updated firmware that fixed charge timer and my repeated complaints to the dealer these issues.

But, all doesn’t yet address the singular issue with the current EV; the car doesn’t sell well. In 2013, only 44 were Toyota made several changes to pricing and the sales went up to about 100 for the month July 2013. They have to sell 2000 cars.  ( full 2010-2013 sales table by vehicle can be here )

So, is it cheaper to cut the losses now and buy credits of delivering more cars? potentially $28,200,000 in additional to Toyota to sell 2000 cars, there’s some serious considerations to make. impossible for me to know any potential on the table, but if Tesla or some company offered them a deal on ZEV credits that less than $28 million, they cancel RAV4 EV? Let me in your comments below.


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