1985/6 Top-line Estate Car Test: Crown LS120 vs Nissan 300C Cedric Y30…

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1985/6 Top-line Car Test: Crown LS120 vs 300C Cedric Y30

Anthony assisted by Fergus McIver,

Both of these models the ‘Big Two’ were the top of the at the time, excluding the company spec Century and President Regrettably, the last Crown sold in the UK were the late 2.6 MS83 series, before the of the range altogether in 1983 the last sales of the facelifted 2.8i saloon, to be replaced by the less impressive FWD Camry as top of the However the Cedric (or Datsun as it was then) carried on through the two model changes, bowing out 1988 in Y30 form as the Nissan The saloon was an automatic as standard, but the were 5-speed manual. A few E and F vehicles were registered at the end of it’s run, but it was never more than an oddball in range. But what a shame, as you can see it’s an impressive classically estate car, unashamedly and thus very capacious.

The estate here, or ‘Station as denoted on it’s badge, was imported by accident, only a of years ago. Both are nominally seven seater’s as have an occasional ‘jockey’ seat that folds up out of the load area. Hence from Berwick who was dabbling in the import of MPV’s was rather when this rolled off the with a load of Previa/Estima/Lucida’s! He the language barrier, as ‘something have gone wrong in the Such an old vehicle is quite to be imported, never mind a avoided by the usual grey such as the Crown, never it being the estate version. I be surprised if it was the only one in the UK. A brown 120-series saloon was knocking in the hands of the TEC-London ‘mafia’ for the few years, and there was a tired but ex-Channel Islands dark saloon for sale on ebay year. This was actually a 2 ‘Supercharger’ model, another JDM tax-break wheeze, so as not to exceed the luxury taxes on cars engines over 2 litres.

TEC member Ross M. near has a good condition white 120-series 4-door hardtop. was previously owned by Brian but was originally specially imported by TEC and Crown enthusiast Greg H.) So about four in the country I’m particularly aware of. The 300C here was recently for sale by Fergus Goosegog . who previously has owned one of Octav Botnar’s Nissan Leopard’s — an F30 He’s now ‘seen the light’ and it in for a very funky Toyota CR30 Master Ace Surf .

So the background and brief history – How do the two models compare? Size-wise, is nothing in it. Both models are Each has a stylish slightly roof section, although the scores points for having a odd little sunroof in the angled section of the raised area. It has factory fitted curtains. odd little feature is a bit funereal, Family even. My workmates dubbed it the ‘Ghostbuster’s-mobile’.

For the trim, cars have a very and retro type of brushed-velour. The saloon in particular always had appealing seat material, if you that fussy ‘ultra-velour’ The Crown estate here is a more restrained, but is in pimptastic – my favourite! The more common blue of the Cedric is hard to either.

The Crown rear split/fold in a 60/40 ratio, providing a totally flat area. The Cedrics are a straight folding split, i.e. are the same size. The jockey in both cars are vinyl and fold down quite I’m frankly surprised these still legal in the UK market the late 300C estates still being officially as neither cars have here.

Both dashboards are the square affairs of the 1980s, with of coloured plastic and fake inserts. (Just fine by me by the and pretty smart.) Dials in these practical cars are and not any kind of digital goings-on the exception of the clock in the Nissan. I can a digital set up certainly being in the posher Crown Royal models.

Both sets of are non-standard, the Cedric’s borrowing a originally off an early 90’s The badges on the Nissan’s wheels the curious inscription “We produced Spartan air!”. This leaves many folk and puzzled. When in Hong in around 1993 every low-spec Crown taxi had their car with after-market wheels (along with Crown column change knobs), and this Crown is no with Japanese market chrome wire-wheels, which look OK when cleaned up a

Both cars here are quite good, with the forgivable number of expected scrapes. The Crown is more free, only having our weather for 2 yrs, but has lost lacquer on the flat bonnet and

I have never been an fan of the over square styling of these saloon models, though I generally like cars. The front end of the 300C is a blunt and childish affair, and looks right to me. The front of the 120-series Crown is one of it’s attractive points, with a but impressive and nicely proportioned grille, with novel fog lamps (a featured carried the 130-series). The smart colour-coded bumpers have been a Crown feature since the 1980 MS112, quite a from the lashings of chrome and on the previous model MS85. had a similar fussily styled change from the 330 series its almost 60’s but wonderful to the square cut 430-series. But the Cedric have always been a unappealing affair compared to the with messy rubber and seams.

The formal rear pillar of the Crown saloon was always to me, one strongest features, especially on the However most 120-series had strange plastic panels in a colour, which was always a bit and was never repeated again on any Toyota model I don’t However the 430 and Y30 Cedrics committed the sin of having the dreaded ‘opera’ which are cute from the with their etched logo, but ruin the rear styling making it look too and unimpressive, like a more family model.

I had never the expected interest in acquiring a saloon or 4-door hardtop for of these reasons, but had no qualms the overall styling of this model. This is the perfect and excuse for filling a ‘hole’ in my large collection. As a keen and triathlete you may have seen my at JAE / JAPS with a racing stuffed behind the front but no such problems here, and I a practical and economical Crown at It has already moved sofas and with ease. (So now I only an MS85 series Crown to an example of at least one model the third generation through to the generation! – Being MS55, MS112, LS120, UZS131 and — Probably some of a ‘world’ record eh?).

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is a stylish brushed aluminium panel on the rear pillars of the estate. But a novel feature of estates at least as far back as my old 1977 330 280C is a key operated window in the load bay side-glass, and feature is still present in 86 model. A point to the Cedric Although missing(!) on my example, the has twin rear wash against the Cedric’s single.

The rear styling of the both models were far from examples, and never looked good, the Crown having an odd horizontal strip across the of the bootlid. The Cedric’s rear was a bit tame, especially when with the 70’s 230 and 330-series models, with their trees’. The estate models less scope for such in the lighting department, although the corner lamps are particularly and rounded, with little to them at all, in contrast to its front quarter lamps. The wood on the Cedric rear is appealing, and certainly sets it from any other ‘boring’ estate then for sale.

It be one of the most classically styled estate cars ever and later Crown models barely improve on this styling. In fact Toyota even tried, and the styling altered right through the 90’s models, even the perimeter frame chassis on the Taxi models), and effectively carrying over the older while the main 1991 and later Crowns went conventional with unitary construction and less formal styling. The Cedric is obviously similarly styled, and it’s more than personal in your favourite. Unsurprisingly the Crown that wins my and I have never been tempted to go out and buy a 300C Estate, not I have ever had much as with around only 800 in by Nissan, they are pretty

Both cars have width intrusion in the load the Crown being slightly so in that a space-saver narrow wheel is located in the compartment on the side by the wheel arch. has been done as the jockey occupy the usual space the boot floor. In the superior of the Nissan however, the full-size wheel is stored underneath the lowered by a chain like on a A small box on the right hand of the boot area stows the and tool kit.

In the engine department, Nissan their straight six engines the introduction of the Y30 around 1984. the VG30 V6 lump was always renowned for being very by the standards of the day, and has done service in the Nissan range this point on, as did the L-series them. (Although I could figure out why the trusty L-series soldiered on through to 1989 in the C32 in 2.4 form. Crikey, it was around in the 240Z in 1970 odd, and before then too.)

The 120-series Crowns retained the 5M 2.8 engines of the previous 112-series, but more often the twin-can as seen in the UK Celica Supra The later 120-series had the 7M (and 6M) lumps as seen in the MA70 However this particular is further differentiated and unusual in it’s a 2.4 L-series turbo-diesel, it even more practical and efficient. It typically does the low 30’s mpg, very for this type of car, and it being an auto. The badge proclaims it to be a Ceramic turbo, and I this was very prevalent on cars on the market back in even though we take a diesel for granted now.

both diesel and auto, the is no great ball of fire, but along just nicely. The is the familiar 3-speed plus first widely seen in the which as that time it quite a technological leader in the from late 1979. it’s little known Volvo 7-seriers used a of this transmission right up the takeover by Ford in the mid-90’s.

In contrast, the 5-speed manual has a reputation as quite fast certainly in a straight line, and the two are chalk and cheese in this The manual gearbox has synchromesh on gear so no crunching. Try that on a Vauxhall or Volvo! The last of the estate, Fergus, claimed a decent fuel consumption of 25-30 mpg, when it being driven too enthusiastically. with a performance meter, several attempts Fergus a remarkable 8.79 seconds to in his Cedric – Wow that’s fast for a non-multi-valve old-skool car!

And the is. There’s little in it, it’s really takes your Crown obviously for me, Cedric for However the typical smoked all round on my JDM import set against the and colour coded white makes the Crown the cooler car to me. Our Peter Hunter has had both in earlier model guises and still has a 73/74 MS63. My here are pretty subjective and and if you too have had a Crown and/or as well, please feel to make some of your own onto the forum.

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